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  • Below the cheekbone.

    17 26.98%
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  1. #1
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    Default Figure 8 noseband: Below or Above?

    How do you fit a figure 8 noseband?

    Years ago, the top strap was fitted to be two fingers under the cheekbone, more like a flash. The ones I see now are fitted above the cheekbone, in some pictures the ring is almost at the horse's eye.

    Is there a physical reason for this difference or is this more of what is in fashion?

    What do you recommend as a brand for a Figure 8?
    Last edited by Come Shine; Jan. 17, 2010 at 04:13 PM. Reason: Speeling.



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    I voted "above" but the cheekbone isn't the landmark I use.

    The top strap fits just below the round part of the horse's cheek/jaw.

    The lower part goes on the chin-side of the bit.

    To me, the point of the figure-8 is to create a noseband that restricts a gaping mouth differently and more gently than does a crank, flash or dropped noseband. Ideally, the horse begins to open his mouth and feels constriction at the top first. Then you don't have to really crank either strap down hard in order to get what you want. Or with multiple points of pressure, the whole figure 8 can be looser and still get the job done.
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    Thanks mvp. Your answer helped me realize that my question is clear as mud. Thank goodness, your answer made more sense than the question.

    Is there any difference between using a figure 8 that has the 'ring' (with a leather piece that goes under the jaw) or one that only has the leather straps that cross?



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    Yes. Figure 8 with rings can sit on the cheekbone- even fairly high up under the eye- and still buckle properly below the jaw bone. A figure 8 without rings will sit just below the cheekbone (but not 2 fingers below like a regular caveson). You have more flexibility with rings.



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    I have an older (much older, like 20-years old) one without rings and place it just below or at the cheekbone.
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    IMO, ringed figure 8s look nicer and are easier to put on if their maker got the lengths of the various straps right. It doesn't always happen.
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    I think it depends on the horse and the figure of 8. The most important thing for me is that the soft parts of the nose (nostrils I guess) are not constricted. I see many fitted too low (IMO).

    Remeber when they were rare and called Grackles?
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    Thanks for the responses! That makes much sense about how they fit, depending on whether or not they have the ring.

    I always thought the Grackle has something to do with a Kineton. Learn something new everyday.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Come Shine View Post
    Thanks for the responses! That makes much sense about how they fit, depending on whether or not they have the ring.

    I always thought the Grackle has something to do with a Kineton. Learn something new everyday.
    Here is a good pic of a "Grackle" that also shows how I fit mine:
    https://www.millbryhill.co.uk/equest...idle-16922.htm

    This one, like my Vespucci has rings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sisu27 View Post
    Here is a good pic of a "Grackle" that also shows how I fit mine:
    https://www.millbryhill.co.uk/equest...idle-16922.htm

    This one, like my Vespucci has rings.

    I fit my figure 8 with rings like that. Here is a picture. Without rings fits like the picture Peggy posted. I prefer w/ rings because the top band fits better with rings, IMO. There is no gapping like without rings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sisu27 View Post
    Remeber when they were rare and called Grackles?
    My understanding has always been that the ones with rings are called grackles, and the ones that are all leather are called figure 8s.



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    I fit the ones without rings just below the cheekbone, and the ones with rings about 2 fingers above. I try to adjust it so the disc is exactly in the middle, not too high or too low. Here is a picture, although this isn't the best example because the noseband on this bridle is ridiculously large and I couldn't adjust it any higher on his face. The one in the picture is a Collegiate, but I upgraded over the summer to Five Star Tack's Chelsea model and it's a lovely bridle.

    My boss, who's British, calls all figure 8s grackles (rings or no rings).



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