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  1. #1
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    Default Deadbeat voters

    Warning: rant ahead.

    This term really bothers me! I'm 23, and I voted in this presidential election and the last one. I have not voted in any other election. Before you jump to conclusions, let me explain a little...

    I am a moderately well informed American. I pay attention to politics that are getting media attention, and I take some time to do research on something that doesn't sound right to me or something I feel I need more information on. I read local newspapers and pay attention to what goes on in the local government. I'm aware that there are more than 2 parties (well, they claim there are at least) and didn't vote republican or democrat this time around. I voted on all of the state propositions after reading up and the pros and cons of each.

    However, I'm registered without a party, and that means I don't get a vote in primaries.

    Also, being in and recently out of college, I move around a lot. I feel like my opinion shouldn't get much of a say at the local level. For example: I voted yesterday in Los Angeles, and there was a measure on porn. It passed, which will likely move the porn industry out of the county. Well in about an hour, I'm driving 7 hours north to another county where I will live for a while. This measure will probably help my new home because there is already an established industry there and I believe many companies will choose this as their new home. I felt like the people residing in LA should have their votes count, not someone who is leaving and won't have to live with the consequences.

    Once I settle down, I do plan on voting in local elections. Maybe one day Ill even sell my soul to a party and vote in the primaries (although I can now vote for a democrat or independent next time around).

    But damn it! I am an American citizen who exercised my right to vote just like you did! I am educated. I am informed. I choose only to vote in large elections. Why the hell does that make me a "deadbeat voter"?

    End rant. Good for any of you who read all of this.
    Proud member of the "I'm In My 20's and Hope to Be a Good Rider Someday" clique

    Fourteen Months Living and Working in Costa Rica


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    I don't like the term "deadbeat voters" either. Anyone who votes, ever, in anything, is performing an important service and exercising an important right.

    Here in Mass, "unenrolled" or independent voters, CAN vote in primaries, but only one, of course . It used to be that, if we voted in a primary, they automatically enrolled us in that party and we had to go back and register as independent, that REALLY discouraged voting in primaries and I didn't that often because of it. Not anymore, now I am allowed to keep my "unenrolled" status, even after voting in a party primary, yeah!

    When I was young, I was not very involved in local politics either, it is hard to be when you are moving frequently.

    Thank you for voting!


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    I don't think YOU are who they are referring to with that term.
    You abstained from local issues because of a valid reason, not because you couldn't be bothered to research.



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    You don't sound like a deadbeat voter to me. Sounds like you go above and beyond to get informed.

    The uninformed who go vote based on a friend's recommendation, a skit they saw on SNL, or who looked the coolest in a candidate's t-shirt is another story.
    Ever see some of the talk show's man on the street interviews where they ask
    about candidates, etc. And folks don't have a clue...they vaguely recognize a name but not if they are D or R or what they stand for. Think there are way more of those types than the folks on here can imagine.


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    Okay, I'll don my flame-suit (although I don't really care) & stick my toe in here.

    "Deadbeat Voters" are those voters who only turn out for Presidential elections. Period. They can't be bothered to show up & vote every year for those oh so annoying little local issues & candidates, even though those "annoying little local issues & candidates" may have more of a long-term impact on local lives than the big-wig Presidential election.

    Sorry if you're offended by the "Deadbeat Voter" title, but if the shoe fits, wear it. (Oh, & love the excuses, by the way.)


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    I didn't vote yesterday.

    I have run caucuses and voting booths. Been very involved. But I did not vote yesterday.

    I didn't think I was going to be able to vote because my absentee ballot was late (from MI). But I was here yesterday unplanned and could have voted and I didn't. I had a lot going on, was sick, and knew that my vote wasn't really going to count here. So I didn't go. I'm normally very on top of things and vote. BUt I didn't so I suck. You did better than me, OP!
    A good horseman doesn't have to tell anyone...the horse already knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacardi1 View Post
    Okay, I'll don my flame-suit (although I don't really care) & stick my toe in here.

    "Deadbeat Voters" are those voters who only turn out for Presidential elections. Period. They can't be bothered to show up & vote every year for those oh so annoying little local issues & candidates, even though those "annoying little local issues & candidates" may have more of a long-term impact on local lives than the big-wig Presidential election.

    Sorry if you're offended by the "Deadbeat Voter" title, but if the shoe fits, wear it. (Oh, & love the excuses, by the way.)
    Ha. Anyone who wants to talk smart about making an effort to have their opinions heard and counted about very local issues needs to move to a small New England town for a while. We have direct Town Meeting here!! It is the only surviving form of pure, direct, Democracy in the country, and nearly the world (Switzerland makes use of it too). It takes hours and hours and hours of time whole Saturdays, plus, usually, the following Monday night, devoted to presentations, debate and voting with raised hands in person. Yipeee! I love it, it's fascinating, it's a unique opportunity, but being involved is a HUGE commmitment and a legitimate sacrifice.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacardi1 View Post
    Okay, I'll don my flame-suit (although I don't really care) & stick my toe in here.

    "Deadbeat Voters" are those voters who only turn out for Presidential elections. Period. They can't be bothered to show up & vote every year for those oh so annoying little local issues & candidates, even though those "annoying little local issues & candidates" may have more of a long-term impact on local lives than the big-wig Presidential election.

    Sorry if you're offended by the "Deadbeat Voter" title, but if the shoe fits, wear it. (Oh, & love the excuses, by the way.)
    Bacardi, so would you prefer I not vote at all, or that I come to your town, spend a month there, then vote on long lasting issues? I would truly like to know.
    Proud member of the "I'm In My 20's and Hope to Be a Good Rider Someday" clique

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    You can exercise your right to vote or you can choose not to, that is why we live in a free country. I don't think it's anyone's business where and when you vote and on what. That is between you and the ballot box.


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