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  1. #21
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    To clear up confusion, I ride trails/endurance in a crupper, but don't normally use it in the arena. I intend to start now though, and see if it helps.



  2. #22
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    I had the same issue with my Wintec 500 AP. I switched saddles (Stübben Scandica DL) and no more issues whatsoever. My horse never acted sore or uncomfortable in the Wintec but I definitely noticed a difference with the saddle switch.



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    I've had this issue with every saddle I've put on my mare, so I'm saving up for a proper saddle fitting. It's a saddle thing which could be improved by girths or pads but is still a saddle thing.
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    I have the same problem... And I also think its a saddle fitting problem...
    I´m getting a custom saddle right now...
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manni01 View Post
    I have the same problem... And I also think its a saddle fitting problem...
    I´m getting a custom saddle right now...
    Actually Bryan, the Voltaire rep who came to our barn yesterday, said it is a very common problem. They worked on it and developed a new saddle especially for ponies and I have to say the fit was pretty good! Kids at our barn were pretty excited that they got to try the first US prototype, Bryan said they haven't even found a name for it yet. I'm not sure how long it will be until they officially launch it but it seemed very promising... It was high time a French brand starts developing a real pony saddle as opposed to just making a smaller version of their full size saddle. It's pretty obvious that ponies aren't built like miniature sized horses...



  6. #26
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    Nike13, cruppers are legal in dressage. I ride my Arab in one. As someone else pointed out, it's a cheap fix for a frustrating problem, and if your pony already accepts it, you're a step ahead. If they are correctly fitted, they don't affect performance in the least.

    To share my similar story, I tried a bunch on saddles on my guy and every single one slid forward. Everything. I tried the girth thing, the pad thing, spent more money than I'd care to recall shipping saddles, and nothing worked. In desperation, I figured he'd need to wear a crupper if I taught him to drive, and it solved the problem such that I was able to use a saddle already sitting in my tack room.

    Another thought is that an 18" girth is really short. I had better luck with a longer girth. Not sure why.



  7. #27
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    If she is "mutton-withered", a foregirth may help. Had to use on on a VERY round Shire/TB mare who was withers-challenged.

    Eventually, I found the Larische medium-wide the best saddle for her, sans foregirth. (I bought it used...pricey! )

    I lost her a few months ago, but have kept it as fits my stallion (IF I can ever find time to ride him again).

    They're hard to find, but will keep it in case I wind up with another one like her. May be worth pursuing.



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    Ginger, did a longer girth help with the sliding forward, or do you mean it was just easier to find?
    She has decent withers, and side-to-side slipage is not a problem. Fortunately she is very accepting of the crupper, so hopefully that will help. Up until now, I've just used it when riding steep hills/long distances.
    Here's hoping a short anatomic girth does the trick. A custom saddle is not in the budget right now, and even if it were, who wants to ride over the river, throught he woods, and into a briar patch in something that expensive? I'd probably break down a cry the first time I scratched it.



  9. #29
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    Nike13, the longer girth helped stabilize everything and did help somewhat with the sliding forward, although it didn't cure the problem. However, I do use a longer girth now with the crupper. It's also a heck of a lot easier to adjust from the saddle. If a very short girth won't solve the sliding forward, those buckles will be hitting pony's elbows, so do keep an eye out for that.



  10. #30
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    You might try a Thorowgood Griffin or the more modern t4. They have very flat
    panels and are made for round horses. I have two Griffins and also a Wintec Pro and a Wintec AP both of which have adjustable gullets and neither of the Wintecs fits my little round 13.2 pony as well as the Thorowgood Griffins.



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