Stamm 242 is a tremendous Stamm, and Elina was just remarked as the 2nd best sport horse producing mare in Holstein. She was bred by Otto Lienau, who breed only with this stamm. He also bred Liostro, one of the best sons of Ladykiller XX. Carthegena comes from this stamm, and many top sport horses. At the Elite Sport horse auction in 07, and 08 the highest selling Holsteiner was out of the Carthago mare Goldika VI who was out of the Renomee Z mare Annakonda that Otto bred. I think the Casall/Carthago/Renomee mare sold for over 200k Euro's. Unbelieveble. I will see some of this family in a couple of weeks. Lovely family, great breeders. They also are the Stallion station where Contender Lives.