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    I had an Appy mare with a squamous cell carcinoma in her 3rd eyelid. Was treated very effectively and permanently. Vet knocked her out in the paddock, cut the 3rd eyelid out, froze with liquid nitrogen and it was done. Took maybe 5 minutes at the most.



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    A remembrance of Man O' War's funeral with photos by Barbara Livingston:
    http://www.drf.com/blogs/man-o-wars-...estic-champion


    An article on how Phar Lap was preserved:
    http://blog.modernmechanix.com/dead-...dermy/1/#mmGal

    And Photos:
    http://museumvictoria.com.au/collect...land-1926-1932

    I found it interesting that Phar Lap's skeleton is in Australia while the preserved hide/taxidermy specimen is in New Zealand.
    It's not about the color of the ribbon but the quality of the ride. Having said that, I'd like the blue one please!



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    That's because although he was bred here in NZ, the Aussies still try to lay claim to him =)



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    hehe yes we do still try to claim Phar Lap! lol Though I thought his skin was still in Australia ( Melbourne museum) because i saw it there 3 years ago. Or did it recently go back to NZ?

    P.



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    Default That is some pathetic vet!

    Quote Originally Posted by judybigredpony View Post
    I agree 100% and so does my Vet a well placed bullet or Captive Bolt is quicker. Chemical Euthanasia is expensive and often ugly and takes way more time. We have even found chemical euthanised horses @ the track standing up very much alive the next morning after sustaining a life ending injury and Chemically Euthanised by Vet

    I don't know any hunts around us who will take on any animal to feed hounds either.
    In my 40 some years of being involved with horses I have NEVER seen or heard of such a thing. I have attended many a euthanasia. What is wrong with a Vet who does not administer the proper amount, and monitor until the animal is gone. Wow.
    "you can only ride the drama llama so hard before it decides to spit in your face." ?Caffeinated.



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    [quote=otterhound;6594394]Imagine the cost of having a complete horse done by a taxidermist these days! [quote]


    Where I live, it will cost about 700$ to have a coyote mounted. (by a really good taxidermist)
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    How long ago did you have it done??
    My concern too is that she may have these tumours in more places than I'm aware of at the moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by otterhound View Post
    I had an Appy mare with a squamous cell carcinoma in her 3rd eyelid. Was treated very effectively and permanently. Vet knocked her out in the paddock, cut the 3rd eyelid out, froze with liquid nitrogen and it was done. Took maybe 5 minutes at the most.



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    Well can you blame them LOL

    QUOTE=otterhound;6596360]That's because although he was bred here in
    NZ, the Aussies still try to lay claim to him =)[/QUOTE]



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    Quote Originally Posted by JGHIRETIRE View Post
    How long ago did you have it done??
    My concern too is that she may have these tumours in more places than I'm aware of at the moment.
    Would be about 9 or 10 years ago now! The growth was increasing in size and her eye was producing tears consistently. I took her first to the veterinary university (in Perth, Australia) where they quoted me over $2000, which was about 3 times what I paid for the mare! I brought her home, to mull it over, and happened to chat with an equine vet friend of mine (he was cheif equine vet and the Sydney olympics, so knows his stuff) and he said he'd come and have a look, and if it was what he thought it would be, the cost would be around $250 and he could do it there and then.
    And it all had a very happy ending =)



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    I remember watching a doco on Youtube about the hunt kennels in the UK.

    Warning - contains actual scenes of, you know, what they do.

    Hunting Days 5 of 8



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    Our huntsman does feed flesh, and he will take horses, but the hounds would rather have beef. The pack is slow to start on a horse carcass, but jumps right on a cow.

    If you do decide to take your horse to the kennel, ask if you can make a donation to the hunt. Our huntsman pays a local guy to do the shooting-he is very good at it-and then pays for a Bobcat to bury the hide and bones.

    The fresh meat is very good for the pack, and I love the idea that my hunter will "hunt forever".



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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by judybigredpony
    I agree 100% and so does my Vet a well placed bullet or Captive Bolt is quicker. Chemical Euthanasia is expensive and often ugly and takes way more time. We have even found chemical euthanised horses @ the track standing up very much alive the next morning after sustaining a life ending injury and Chemically Euthanised by Vet

    I don't know any hunts around us who will take on any animal to feed hounds either


    Quote Originally Posted by Sannois View Post
    In my 40 some years of being involved with horses I have NEVER seen or heard of such a thing. I have attended many a euthanasia. What is wrong with a Vet who does not administer the proper amount, and monitor until the animal is gone. Wow.
    I thought the same thing. Pretty crummy work.
    The only one I ever had to have euthed my vet warmed me that because his heart was not good it would take longer for him to actually leave.

    He gave him the tranq, helped him to lie down and then gave that finale injection.
    He stayed with the mule, checking him every few min. until finally he told me he was gone.

    The whole thing was a peaceful gentle thing thank goodness.
    You know why cowboys don't like Appaloosas?" - Answer: Because to train a horse, you have to be smarter than it is.



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    I've never had a bad experience with it either - I can't imagine the vet not taking the time.
    Crappy vet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sannois View Post
    In my 40 some years of being involved with horses I have NEVER seen or heard of such a thing. I have attended many a euthanasia. What is wrong with a Vet who does not administer the proper amount, and monitor until the animal is gone. Wow.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Mac Donald View Post
    I remember watching a doco on Youtube about the hunt kennels in the UK.

    Warning - contains actual scenes of, you know, what they do.

    Hunting Days 5 of 8
    Just watched this, and the similarity to our slaughterhouse set-up in uncanny! We also skin ours the same way. Only real difference is we only have one animal in at a time - except the day a lady brought 3 miniature horses at once.



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    Quote Originally Posted by otterhound View Post
    ...except the day a lady brought 3 miniature horses at once.
    Snack size?



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    Quote Originally Posted by otterhound View Post
    Imagine the cost of having a complete horse done by a taxidermist these days! I have a hoof and a tail from one of mine. Plus a stunning Appaloosa hide on my wall. The hide alone cost $350 about 5 years ago - I couldn't imagine what it would cost to do a whole horse! And I doubt it would end up looking just like the original - I've seen Phar Laps body (he's been "stuffed") and I think there's quite an art in getting the face just right.
    Buttercup (Dale Evan's horse), who alas is relegated to cameos on American Pickers (the guy who owns him wants $45k, if anyone's interested), is a really nice mount. Whoever did it did a fantastic job on the head in particular.

    To a point made farther up--embalming slows down decomposition, but can't stop it entirely (look at Egyptian mummies). There ARE ways to do a really creepily permanent job, like Eva Peron, but they're incredibly expensive and one wonders what the point is. I don't have a problem with burial, but embalming creeps me the heck out.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SmartAlex View Post
    Snack size?
    Definitely - about the size a decent ram! One isn't enough to feed the pack for a day, whereas a horse (or cow) will do about 4 days.



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    That's what I call a chihuahua for my german shepherd

    Quote Originally Posted by SmartAlex View Post
    Snack size?



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