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  1. #181
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    Mar. 23, 2006
    New York State


    People have been calling my little Pekingese/Poodle mix a "Pug" for ages. I just found out that her grandpa, who has himself ended up at a rescue, is a full fawn-colored Pug!

  2. #182
    Join Date
    Nov. 26, 2006


    I think it's funny how POed people get about this issue. If I want to spend $50 or $5000 on my new dog, what does that matter to you?

    I am the proud owner of a "designer breed" (SPCA special - I only justify this b/c I don't support breeding for pets) and have no qualms about proudly announcing her as such.

    Hybrid vigor does exist, but it refers to more similarly related animals breeding together. You can't cross a Chihuahua with a Lab and expect something decently conformed just because they're both dogs.
    Last edited by Abberlaze; Aug. 21, 2014 at 12:01 PM. Reason: incorrect info

  3. #183
    Join Date
    Jun. 15, 2010


    Quote Originally Posted by Abberlaze View Post
    If I want to spend $50 or $5000 on my new dog, what does that matter to you?
    Where is that banging the head against a wall icon when you need it.

    It matters because reputable breeders DO NOT BREED MUTTS.

    Intentionally crossing dogs with no genetic testing, no titles, and no value as breeding stock to produce a quick buck is unethical, irresponsible, and contributes to the number of unwanted dogs in the country.

    The argument can be made for crossing dogs for performance or field work (flyball dogs, etc.) to provide certain attributes in a smaller dog but that is the exception. Most designer breeds come from someone crossing 4 different small breeds with poodles to create designer dogs they can ship around the country at 6 weeks of age for $2k a piece.

  4. #184
    Join Date
    Oct. 19, 2012
    North Carolina


    Meh, as others have said, most people just don't know that much about dogs. I have a standard poodle, and the questions people ask are quite odd. I can count on one hand how many people have called her a poodle, a standard poodle even less so. However, there are countless, "is that a labradoodle?", or "what kind of doodle is that?" Once I tell them that she's a standard, they tend to get a confused look on their face and exclaim, "wow, she's a huge poodle," or "I didn't know poodles grew that big." That's hilarious, as standards are the originals bred to retrieve water foul; what's more, my dog is actually small for a standard. I have trouble imagining how people can look at her and NOT think poodle:
    IMG_3141 by anti-kantian, on Flickr

    Not to mention that she cost quite a bit less than the $5,000+ that some people apparently pay for goldendoodles or other crosses. And, I have a more-or-less complete 30++ generation pedigree, with the oldest dog going back to the early 1900's, and a lot with ofa/hip tests, age, cause of death, so I was reasonably sure what I was getting into.

    Oh, and doodle breeders touting low coat maintenance as a plus? Poodles shed, they just don't shed all over your house. I spend close to $100/month on grooming. I guess I could offset that by collecting her hair and starting a company that sells "purebred" poodle yarn

    The only negative with my spoo is that she hogs the bed and occasionally kicks me in the face when she turns over to the 'cool' side of the blankets.
    Last edited by user19491921; Oct. 30, 2012 at 05:01 PM.

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