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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderhorseguy View Post
    Except every notion or opinion posted by Echo is directly from either PETA
    or HSUS.
    Well since I am not affiliated and haven't even looked at their sites in years, maybe because what ever you are referring to is true and probably said by many. What are you refferring to?


    I do consider myself to be an Animal Welfare person. Do you consider yourself to be for Animal Welfare or Animal Rights?
    I don't know what you are referring to as 'animal rights'? We decide when they live,when they die, and how they are treated or not treated. What are y



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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderhorseguy View Post
    Except every notion or opinion posted by Echo is directly from either PETA
    or HSUS.
    Well since I am not affiliated and haven't even looked at their sites in years, maybe because what ever you are referring to is true and probably said by many. What are you refferring to?


    I do consider myself to be an Animal Welfare person. Do you consider yourself to be for Animal Welfare or Animal Rights?
    I don't know what you are referring to as 'animal rights'? We decide when they live,when they die, and how they are treated or not treated. What are you referring to as animal rights?



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    A lot of information can be found pretty easily if you search for it. No need to ever go on HSUS' or any ARA's websites.

    Links to reputable sources, i.e. USDA/APHIS and many more have been provided throughout this discussion.

    If the pro side chooses to ignore them, doesn't mean they don't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echo View Post
    Well since I am not affiliated and haven't even looked at their sites in years, maybe because what ever you are referring to is true and probably said by many. What are you refferring to?
    Quote Originally Posted by luvmytbs View Post
    A lot of information can be found pretty easily if you search for it. No need to ever go on HSUS' or any ARA's websites.

    Links to reputable sources, i.e. USDA/APHIS and many more have been provided throughout this discussion.

    If the pro side chooses to ignore them, doesn't mean they don't exist.
    The pro side has historically been consistent in two ways:

    1. Automatically claiming anyone who is against horse slaughter is a RARA affiliated with PETA and/or HSUS. Despite the fact many of us have never even peeked at their websites.

    2. Not reading or acknowledging information coming from reputable sources.

    Sad but true.
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    Default The longest thread by just repeating posts...

    Some day this thread might end...

    But then some fool would just start another one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7HL View Post
    Some day this thread might end...

    But then some fool would just start another one.
    You mean:
    This is the thread that doesn't end
    and it goes on and on, my friend
    Some people started posting on it
    not knowing what it was
    and hey continue doing so because

    this is the thread that doesn't end.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Mozart View Post
    Personally, I think the moderate use of shock collars in training humans should be allowed.



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    So have you got music to go with that song???[

    Quote Originally Posted by Alagirl View Post
    You mean:
    This is the thread that doesn't end
    and it goes on and on, my friend
    Some people started posting on it
    not knowing what it was
    and hey continue doing so because

    this is the thread that doesn't end.....



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    Quote Originally Posted by JGHIRETIRE View Post
    So have you got music to go with that song???[

    funny you should ask....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNTxr2NJHa0
    Quote Originally Posted by Mozart View Post
    Personally, I think the moderate use of shock collars in training humans should be allowed.



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    ROFLMAO very cute!! Could get annoying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alagirl View Post



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    Interesting tidbit about the sale of Rita Crundwell's horses:

    "The Buyer of a horse or embryo agrees that he or she is not purchasing the horse or embryo for slaughter or for any person who plans to use the horse or embryo for slaughter. The Buyer further agrees not to use, or allow the use of, the horse or embryo for slaughter while in his / her / its ownership or control."

    How in the world will that be enforced?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jenm View Post
    Interesting tidbit about the sale of Rita Crundwell's horses:

    "The Buyer of a horse or embryo agrees that he or she is not purchasing the horse or embryo for slaughter or for any person who plans to use the horse or embryo for slaughter. The Buyer further agrees not to use, or allow the use of, the horse or embryo for slaughter while in his / her / its ownership or control."

    How in the world will that be enforced?!
    It likely won't, does not really mean anything in this thread context and as far as I can tell it means nothing because you can sell it to the broker at any time.

    I am assuming it was a clause put into the paperwork as they had 400 horses to disperse in a hurry. Not that most of them were in danger of going for meat anyhow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mozart View Post
    Personally, I think the moderate use of shock collars in training humans should be allowed.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Alagirl View Post
    It likely won't, does not really mean anything in this thread context and as far as I can tell it means nothing because you can sell it to the broker at any time.

    I am assuming it was a clause put into the paperwork as they had 400 horses to disperse in a hurry. Not that most of them were in danger of going for meat anyhow.
    Ha, funny you should try to say it means nothing in this thread context. It's about quarter horses and slaughter, which happen to also be part of the subject title.

    At least I'm not filling up the thread with stupid poems and useless youtube videos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    You are assuming horses are "contaminated" and no one is testing.

    You know what they say about assuming, don't you.
    You can't tell me that you think all of those racehorses that are slaughtered are drug free????



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    Yes, I am bringing this thread back up.

    Investigation 09/21/2012
    For all of those who condone this type of abuse and keep insisting that the Commercial Transport Of Equines For Slaughter Regulations are not broken.

    The authorities were notified on the spot to act according to the regs, but instead the load was allowed to continue into MX without any REQUIRED actions taken.

    Warning: Graphic.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCBHE...ature=youtu.be

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmytbs View Post
    Yes, I am bringing this thread back up.

    Investigation 09/21/2012
    For all of those who condone this type of abuse and keep insisting that the Commercial Transport Of Equines For Slaughter Regulations are not broken.

    The authorities were notified on the spot to act according to the regs, but instead the load was allowed to continue into MX without any REQUIRED actions taken.

    Warning: Graphic.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCBHE...ature=youtu.be
    This stuff commonly happens, as evidenced by the Baker conviction (and unpaid fines, still), the 3 Angels accident where authorities let them load them back up and continue to border in spite of violations, etc.
    And yet, some pro slaughter people here continue to insist that slaughterhorses are transported "just the same as many show horses".



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    Is that the video of the downed horses on the truck in Texas?

    I didn't/can't watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jenm View Post
    Is that the video of the downed horses on the truck in Texas?

    I didn't/can't watch.
    Yes, dated 09/21/2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsmom View Post
    This stuff commonly happens, as evidenced by the Baker conviction (and unpaid fines, still), the 3 Angels accident where authorities let them load them back up and continue to border in spite of violations, etc.
    And yet, some pro slaughter people here continue to insist that slaughterhorses are transported "just the same as many show horses".
    Yep - those show horses are always shipped in low roof, metal floored trailers - never any head room, matts, or shavings, And stacked in trailers to the point if one goes down all they can do is be trampled by the others... that is how people treat their valuable stock.

    And you know, those show people leave the downed horses to be trampled - yep, that is how they are commonly shipped.

    Quote Originally Posted by jenm View Post
    Is that the video of the downed horses on the truck in Texas?

    I didn't/can't watch.
    Yes.. Eagle Pass Texas.



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    Interesting.

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