[judybigredpony]

So they say swift removale of stalls and ejection from backside...clearly stated...

Isn't this a 1st Amendment violation???
And they know they can outlast anyone if oppossed in court...no win ever for the small trainer...

[BeverlyAStrauss]

I missed the posts about Mister Mover ending up in a kill pen- can anyone clue me in?
TIA!

[Little Hound]

From what I was told, PNG will be refusing entries from trainer Paul Truitt, aka Dr. Paul Truitt, aka the general manager of Star Barn Thoroughbreds in Grantville, Pa., who has been sending horses to slaughter from that farm (this has been documented, many turned up at New Holland and Camelot). Star Barn has gone belly-up and are liquidating the horses - last month they had more than 120 on the property.

[SwtVixen]

John Connors horse died crossing the finish line in last nights 9th race Many people are curious to hear the findings of that autopsy.

Its also said the PaRacing Commission allows extended leniency to certain individuals refusing to pay wages. Im sure a judge will correct that thinking, or for sure, Dept of Labor would like to hear that one. The Commission picks who they want to investigate for having workmans comp and looks the other way for certain employers who they know dont.

Business As Usual

[LOVE THE HORSES]

HAS ANYONE BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE DISREGARD OF MISTER MOVER

[tradewind]

NO

[Profidia]

Why did Mister Mover end up in a kill pen?

I'd guess probably because he was eating feed and not making any money maybe?

This time around, Mister Mover who hadnt raced for a full calender year was given only five days to recover before running back a second time and most likely led to his almost demise.

Now why would anyone run a horse back that fast who hadnt raced in over a year and most likely was coming back from an injury?

Aw come on now, he was given a full five days to catch his breath!

But seriously, this is done all the time at Penn and any other bottom level gyp track. In pro baseball a pitcher is required to have X number of days off between games that he pitches. Just why in the world cant there be a rule prohibiting a horse from running for X number of days between starts? Obviously neither their connections nor track management will ever do what's in the best interest of the horses.

When stuff like this happens I'll not defend the indefensible. This only provides fodder for the humaniacs that would like to shut down this sorry excuse for a so-called sport. It's long past time for a national governing body of racing.

It's like throwing the trash out to some people in this industry.
Infact, some of these owners and trainers reminds me of parents who have no business having children.

As GoddyapGirl asked some time ago: Is it really better to allow scumbag gyp trainers to run these horses till their legs break off and be allowed to die on the track? Is this in the best interests of the sport? Seems to me at least at a sale they might have a chance at somebody buying them to make a saddle horse out of instead of the certain doom they face with some of these lowlives.

[Profidia]

John Connors horse died crossing the finish line in last nights 9th race Many people are curious to hear the findings of that autopsy.

It was pretty well known around the backside that the animal in question had issues and never should have been running.

Its also said the PaRacing Commission allows extended leniency to certain individuals refusing to pay wages. Im sure a judge will correct that thinking, or for sure, Dept of Labor would like to hear that one. The Commission picks who they want to investigate for having workmans comp and looks the other way for certain employers who they know dont.

Business As Usual

Uh, yeah. We all know who you are carries a lot of weight in that place. I'd certainly encourage anyone who knows of such goings on to report it to the proper authorities.

[Dahoss]

I'd guess probably because he was eating feed and not making any money maybe?


Aw come on now, he was given a full five days to catch his breath!

But seriously, this is done all the time at Penn and any other bottom level gyp track. In pro baseball a pitcher is required to have X number of days off between games that he pitches. Just why in the world cant there be a rule prohibiting a horse from running for X number of days between starts? Obviously neither their connections nor track management will ever do what's in the best interest of the horses.

When stuff like this happens I'll not defend the indefensible. This only provides fodder for the humaniacs that would like to shut down this sorry excuse for a so-called sport. It's long past time for a national governing body of racing.

As GoddyapGirl asked some time ago: Is it really better to allow scumbag gyp trainers to run these horses till their legs break off and be allowed to die on the track? Is this in the best interests of the sport? Seems to me at least at a sale they might have a chance at somebody buying them to make a saddle horse out of instead of the certain doom they face with some of these lowlives.

Yes Profidia, some trainers run horses back in five days and even less all the time, but why would someone be in such a rush to run a horse back that quick after he has been off for a whole year, most likely coming back from some type of injury. It just doesnt make sense to me if one waited this long. I guess I come from a different school then some. /shrug

[Dahoss]

Just for the record, my PM box is completely full due to this thread and I dont want to delete anything just yet, so if anyone needs to send me a PM for any reason, it can be sent at my other account - Equine Avenger

[LOVE THE HORSES]

Does anyone know how many horses have been accepted into the New Vocations program? The only update I can locate from the HBPA at Penn is from January 2011. At that time it said 12 had been accepted. This is August, it seems there should have been more updates since then. Maybe I am not searching the right places.

[Profidia]

A better question might be how many starts have there been at $10 per start in all those months?

I'd bet they've brought in more than enough to feed all twelve of those horses. Maybe even get them some bedding too

[LOVE THE HORSES]

Sounds about right.

[caffeinated]

From following NV on facebook, it seems like they've had more horses than that in their PA program...

Anna has posted on Chronicle before, perhaps she could share some numbers or insight on how the program is working from their end.

[LOVE THE HORSES]

Thanks for the info.

[caffeinated]

LTH, I PMd anna and she sent the following numbers:

64 horses have been entered into the program 39 have already been adopted and are in new homes and 6 are still in our care but have been adopted and are awaiting pick up

For a program of this type I think that's a very good record. There might be more money in the coffers than what's been used, but it's best to always have extra (some horses may not be rehomed as quickly as others, there are employees to pay and facilities to pay for, etc. And it's always a bad move to overfill a program just because there's money - intake must be balanced with the space in the facility, plus the number of people you have and how much they can realistically manage)

[LOVE THE HORSES]

I am happy to hear the program is progressing. As I said the only update I could find was for 12 horses and that was from January. You are right about having the extra money, living too close to the the fund edge with horses is not a good idea. Thank you for theupdate and I am happy the horses are moving on to a new and hopefully happy life.

[Profidia]

Can anybody name which trainer(s) these horses came from?

[caffeinated]

You'd probably have to send an inquiry.

There's 4 PA horses on the site right now, though, and they came from Harry Dimitriou, Brandon Kulp, and Flint Stites. The fourth I couldn't find, probably spelling it wrong...

[suffolk2002]

Results of inquiry at Penn regarding Delahoussaye, Adamo, Beattie, etc.:


http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind...race_cour.html