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  1. #1
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    Default Fresh stallions who give a strong hind end

    Well - my Donarweiss GGF baby is here and he's a beauty!
    The COTH vote says he will stay black - has 3 stockings and a big blaze, so it would be a waste of all that chrome if he did grey... He's only 2 weeks old - so we'll see!

    BUT - 2 out of the top three things I wanted to tweak came through from the mare.
    Baby definitely appears to have her Height and her hip/back leg...it looks like she DID let DWs typiness come through.


    So...looking for a FRESH stallion who gives his strong back end, adds legginess/modernness/typieness and Does NOT add any more height (downsizing would be preferred!)

    Preference in order above...
    Great, ammy-friendly rideability and temperament a must!



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    How big is too big?



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    Wolkentanz II, though I don't think he'll downsize.



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    What registry do you pefer !!

    Joe



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    Take a look at Benidetto: very active hindleg and passes it on.
    He is moderate size (16.1 +) and VERY ridable/trainable.

    Approved AHS and GOV.

    Lots of foals on my website www.walnut-farm.com
    Linda Woltz
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    standing Benidetto (Belissimo M/SPS COrdoba)



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    Mare is 17.2 and big bodied, shorter legs "old style" - and that is plenty big for me! Donarweiss appears to have modernized baby, as far as I can tell, but he is tall!

    More modern, but same height would probably be fine...

    Mare is approved KWPN-NA and AHS, we also have a GOV inspection within an hour, so that is an option, as well.
    I'm most interested in a great match!


    hmmmm...forgot about Benidetto!
    He was on my list this winter, but was waiting for a video, I think?! I'll check out your website!



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    You can't go wrong with Royal Prince! I don't know that he'll downsize height, but should definitely refine, modernize type, add leg length. I bred him to my post-legged mare and got a wonderful hock angle in the filly, along with a super active hind end.

    It also depends what you're looking for. Do you breed for Dressage? Hunters? Jumpers?



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    Hmmm - Natalie at Hilltop agrees about Royal Prince!

    I'm breeding for Dressage!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-N-Jete' View Post
    Hmmm - Natalie at Hilltop agrees about Royal Prince!

    I'm breeding for Dressage!
    I had a 2008 colt out of a bigger bodied (though only 16.1 h) older type mare. Royal Prince and this mare combined beautifully. He added type, legs, and improved the walk and canter. She added a better set neck with a beautiful shape.
    http://mysite.verizon.net/vze85onr/id32.html

    Good luck with your choice!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-N-Jete' View Post
    Hmmm - Natalie at Hilltop agrees about Royal Prince!

    I'm breeding for Dressage!
    I'm not surprised I bug Natalie all the time about match making. I'm breeding 2 mares to RP this year (my older style Tantris mare and Davignon mare). I can't wait!

    Good luck!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgewood View Post
    I had a 2008 colt out of a bigger bodied (though only 16.1 h) older type mare. Royal Prince and this mare combined beautifully. He added type, legs, and improved the walk and canter. She added a better set neck with a beautiful shape.
    http://mysite.verizon.net/vze85onr/id32.html

    Good luck with your choice!
    He's just LOVELY!
    Siouxland Sporthorses: http://slsfarm.blogspot.com/

    DIY Journey of Remodeling the Farmette: http://weownblackacre.blogspot.com/



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    Ooo- Edgewood you have the nicest babies!
    I remember that handsome fellow!

    Callaway - I'm in the dark ages and can't log in to facebook!!



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    I'm surprised you couldn't see the pics...well if you want to see my filly, she is on RP's video. There's just a short clip of her trotting around Hilltop's indoor at her AHS inspection. Her name is Rafaella.



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    If you can go KWPN have you thought about UB 40. We just sold our 2 yr old UB 40 gelding and he has the powerful hind end I think we have ever had in our breeding program.
    www.trevelyanfarm.com
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    Check out Shakespeare RSF- winner of the 2009 70 day test in Oklahoma. He produced 7 premium GOV foals, 2 foals of distinction, and the top colt at a large AHS inspection, out of 10 foals born in 2009. He is now winning in the dressage ring. Lots of videos on my website
    http://www.rollingstonefarm.com
    http://www.rollingstonefarm.com
    Large Oldenburg and Hanoverian breeding farm
    Standing Shakespeare RSF, Fhitzgerald, Sir James and the homebred stallion Dheputy.



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    I am in love with my RP colt (even though I was hoping for a bay filly lol).

    Since I am looking any excuse to show him off here are a couple pics. He is less than a day old in the pictures. I have yet to download any since he was born.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/29112380@N04/4612415721/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/29112380@N04/4613023878/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/29112380@N04/4612409261/

    Jay-n-Jete, do you have any photos of your Donarweiss foal? I was considering him for my other older style mare. Would love to see what he did for your mare.



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    Lesley - I heard he's super hot....more of a "pro ride"
    What's your colt like??

    Callaway - she's just beautiful! I can only hope to get one as nice as those I've seen!

    Mo - you have a PM

    lalyho - he's really cute!
    I have to upload some new ones - Here he is at 1 day old!
    http://pets.webshots.com/album/577559061NkMHKc

    He was huge, but has unfolded really nicely!

    Been having a hard time uploading...



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    Quote Originally Posted by lalyho View Post
    I am in love with my RP colt (even though I was hoping for a bay filly lol).

    Since I am looking any excuse to show him off here are a couple pics. He is less than a day old in the pictures. I have yet to download any since he was born.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/29112380@N04/4612415721/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/29112380@N04/4613023878/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/29112380@N04/4612409261/

    Jay-n-Jete, do you have any photos of your Donarweiss foal? I was considering him for my other older style mare. Would love to see what he did for your mare.
    I also have a Donarweiss filly The filly is very large and substantial and is also on Donarweiss's video (Donatella). You can also look through facebook album (links above).



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    Lesley - I heard he's super hot....more of a "pro ride"
    What's your colt like??


    We bred him to an older style mare who has the best mind. Our boy was a little sensative to start with but it didn't take much working with for him to become the perfect gentleman. UB may produce horses for professionals depending on the mare line, in addition simply because of the power and strenghth of gaits. For instance, our boy is a lot of horse in a good sense. Would need an athletic rider, not necessarily a pro but someone with good riding skills and horse experience....but I do have to say... boy... can he put on a good hind end?!.
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