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    http://chronicleforums.com/images/cu...milies/cry.gif An 18 year old rider was riding bareback 2 hours after the show was done for the day. Some sort of accident happened in the barn aisle at the show. She some how fell from the horse causing severe head trauma. She was in a coma for almost 30 days and I got word while working as EMT at another show this weekend that she passed away on Thursday night Friday norning.

    I was the EMT at the show she was hurt at. The people called 911 and then came to get me at my trailer. As I responded to the barns I could hear the sirens from the fire truck and the ambulance. I arrived to find her trainer trying to keep her still. She was unconcous and never came out of her coma. The only injuries according to the hospital were head injuries.

    The rules say if you are under 17 you need to wear a helmet all the time. 18 and over only when going over fences. I think this needs to be changed, Trainers need to set the standard and wear helemts anytime when mounted.

    This last week I saw some top trainers riding (not jumping) without helmets. They need to set an example for their students and wear them all the time and make their student wear them anytime they are riding not just during the show or in the show ring and warm up.

    I fell so bad for the family and here friends. I got home from this last show to find out that my wife new the girl, she had worked and rode for a train just up the street for a while.

    The show world will miss her.

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    Her funeral notice is at the following web site.

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    http://chronicleforums.com/images/cu...milies/cry.gif An 18 year old rider was riding bareback 2 hours after the show was done for the day. Some sort of accident happened in the barn aisle at the show. She some how fell from the horse causing severe head trauma. She was in a coma for almost 30 days and I got word while working as EMT at another show this weekend that she passed away on Thursday night Friday norning.

    I was the EMT at the show she was hurt at. The people called 911 and then came to get me at my trailer. As I responded to the barns I could hear the sirens from the fire truck and the ambulance. I arrived to find her trainer trying to keep her still. She was unconcous and never came out of her coma. The only injuries according to the hospital were head injuries.

    The rules say if you are under 17 you need to wear a helmet all the time. 18 and over only when going over fences. I think this needs to be changed, Trainers need to set the standard and wear helemts anytime when mounted.

    This last week I saw some top trainers riding (not jumping) without helmets. They need to set an example for their students and wear them all the time and make their student wear them anytime they are riding not just during the show or in the show ring and warm up.

    I fell so bad for the family and here friends. I got home from this last show to find out that my wife new the girl, she had worked and rode for a train just up the street for a while.

    The show world will miss her.

    Show EMT

    Her funeral notice is at the following web site.

    http://www.legacy.com/SacBee/LegacyS...rsonId=1226866



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    That's awful http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...icon_frown.gif SO sad when something that could have been prevented...
    But awful to lose such a young, talented, rider. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...icon_frown.gif
    I show at the app shows, and no helmet laws AT ALL! I am the ONLY kid who rides in an approved, everyone else schools in nothing and shows in an unapproved (even the LITTLE kids!).
    It makes me nervous http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...icon_frown.gif

    My thoughts are with her family. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...icon_frown.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...icon_frown.gif

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    OMG, thats so awful, my condolences to her friends and family http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...icon_frown.gif the whole accident/head trauma thing hits really close to home i never ride without mine now, not even to walk around.

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    That is a tragic accident. That poor kid. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...icon_frown.gif

    I agree that something needs to be done about the helmet laws. I show in the adult amatures in my fully approved helmet. I know so many people would argue about this because they are big and bulky and don't look right, but if everyone had to wear them, it wouldn't matter.

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    Too much bad news floating around these days - very sad http://chronicleforums.com/images/cu...milies/cry.gif

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    I know I'm going to get severely flamed for this and I am truly sorry that she died but...

    not poor kid...poor family. She was riding her horse, after an already long day for the both of them, no helmet, no saddle, inside the barn and on, probably, a cement floor. Poor family http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...icon_frown.gif

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    It's so sad to hear about accidents that take lives, especially young ones, when a helmet or a seatbelt might have made all the difference. Vanity, youthful exuberance, inconvenience, expense, or lack of rules should not be an excuse for not wearing a helmet.

    Please order this video and show it to your riders. Buy it for your barn, give it to your local riding club. It is all of $17, including shipping. It was produced by the Washington 4-H and Washington State University.

    Every Time, Every Ride

    This video should convince adults as well as kids how important ASTM/SEI certified helmets are. Several professionals talk about surviving a bad fall, but giving up their careers due to traumatic brain injuries. Others talk about a loved one who died as a result of a brain injury. Many of these injuries would have been less severe, or might have been avoided altogether, with use of proper head gear.

    MissCapitalSplash, GOOD FOR YOU!!! I bet those kids riding without helmets are strapped into a car seat for the ride home. It makes me nervous too. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...icon_frown.gif

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Daventry:
    I know I'm going to get _severely_ flamed for this and I am truly sorry that she died but...

    not poor kid...poor family. She was riding her horse, after an already long day for the both of them, no helmet, no saddle, inside the barn and on, probably, a cement floor. Poor family http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...icon_frown.gif

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    Way to make assumptions, Daventry. Have you seen how the stabling at showgrounds are set up in California? Usually outside on the grass, and the aisles are OUTSIDE between the rows of stalls. Don't know if that was the case here, but far more likely than your scenario.

    In any case, it is very sad for all involved. Including the girl who passed away.



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    Daventry: County Fairgrounds, rows of barns outside, ground between barns was as hard a concrete.

    walktrot: I have seen that video. Rusty Nail a rider/trainer is in it. Head injury riding a young colt as I rember. He lives in the same town I do, and broke a colt for the wife before the accident.

    This 18 year old lived less the 7 miles from my ranch and rode at anoth ranch just 1 mile from mine.

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    Oh just awful http://chronicleforums.com/images/cu...milies/cry.gif. My heart goes out to her family, friends and all that knew her http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...icon_frown.gif.

    To all the jr's out there (and adults alike):

    I know it's easy to think that a helmet isn't enough to prevent such accidents...but what IF? I for one go with the 'better safe than sorry' theory. I throw my chaps and hat on before I tack up. I take them off after I've untacked. This is one lesson that is better off NOT learned the hard way. I'm not trying to lecture here...just PLEASE, THINK and be SAFE!
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    This is such a major tragedy! What a heart breaker! Have we (any of us with any sense) not come to realize that some of the worst accidents happen when we least expect them? For me, it was a stupid accident that happened while showing in the adult amateur hunters. Stupid mistake on a great horse that did exactly what I asked him to do. Leave from outer space in a line (that if I had half a brain I would have added and not worried about my finish) instead I asked him to move up and make a major effort, causing him to leave from another planet, unseating me over the top of the jump. Needless to say, I landed on my head wearing an unapproved (with no harness) helmet, that came off long before I hit the ground. I broke my left leg, fractured my skull and herniated two discs in my neck. All with a sweet, kind, honest horse! I never wore a hat/helmet on the flat before my accidnet and would never have thought of wearing those unsightly approved helmets in the show ring before now! I now wear one every time I get on a horse and thank God that I was spared what many others have not (the cjance to talk and hopefully make others learn from)! The loss of life! If half of the professionals that ride would come together and set an example of how not cool it is to get on a horse without "approved" protection we might all be greatful for the lives it might save!



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    ShowEMT....Thanks for letting us know...I feel for the girl and her family. Trainers must teach by example. I see trainers jump young horses without harnesses in the show ring. I would hope they would not want their family to go though what this young girls family is going though. There is a thing called DENIAL and it isn't a river in Egypt!
    I know I could get flamed here but this was so needless of a death

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    Omg I can't believe this. I didn't know her but she happend to go to the same college as me. This is horrible and a tragic event. Robin I hope you are surrounded by horses and are peaceful http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...icon_frown.gif



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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I know I'm going to get severely flamed for this and I am truly sorry that she died but...

    not poor kid...poor family. She was riding her horse, after an already long day for the both of them, no helmet, no saddle, inside the barn and on, probably, a cement floor. Poor family<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I was thinking the same thing.

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    Yes, this is a tragedy. I agree that professionals need to set the example here. I just returned from VT this weekend and was shocked to see a BNT who has represented our country in International events, hacking horse after horse in his baseball cap. This was particularly surprising as another trainer that worked for him several years ago suffered a significant head injury while hacking a horse at home.



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    I was one of the stewards at VT for weeks 1 and 2. And, yes, we do see trainers just hacking horses without wearing hard hats/helmets. But the USAE rule allows that, so there is nothing we can do, unless the show has a rule in its prize list that all mounted riders must wear helmets/hard hats. I hate it that adults don't have to wear helmets while riding - it seems that they will ride to the schooling area, just intending to hack, then they decide to take a couple jumps. Happens all the time. Even during that first week, I had a very well known junior hacking a horse without a helmet at all -I was appalled- and but I did tell her to get off her horse, walk it back to the barn, get a helmet and then she could get back on, after giving her a little lecture. Then I had another junior at a recent show, who thought he would carry his helmet under his arm after he came out of the ring - NOT. But, what can we do - propose rule changes or hope that show grounds will have a helmet-on-while-riding rule for all exhibitors. I am to the point of listing riders who abuse this rule in my report, if I have to tell them more than once. And, that means once at one show - if I catch them again even at another show, it goes into my report. I am getting so tired of this abuse and, these deaths, some of which are preventable and some of which are just horrible accidents, won't occur as often.



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    Bailey, I often do the same thing. Sometimes I feel like a weenie for having my helmet on while I'm tacking up (and sometimes while grooming, depending on the horse and the circumstances), but I'd rather look dumb than get knocked to the ground and kicked or stepped on during a spook.

    And y'all can flame if you want, but grass or no grass, a barn aisle is no place to be riding bareback. IMHO it's no place to be riding at all. The barn area is for stabling, grooming, and tacking. That's why there are schooling and grazing areas at shows.

    That said, I feel terrible for her and her family, and I hope many people - regardless of experience - will take the helmet issue (and all the safety issues raised here) more seriously.
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    I am a true believer in helmets... ya only got one head! What really bothers me are the people who wear helmets (approved or not approved) without the chin strap fastened. You might as well go without one if you can't even wear it properly... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...n_rolleyes.gif

    My condolences to her family. http://chronicleforums.com/images/cu...milies/cry.gif

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    [QUOTE]Originally posted by BAB:

    But the USAE rule allows that, so there is nothing we can do, unless the show has a rule in its prize list that all mounted riders must wear helmets/hard hats. QUOTE]

    That is exactly what we can do. Let the Show managers know that, as a safety item they might think about putting it in the show premium that helmets will be worn by everyone while mounted.

    It is not a USAE rule but it can be a show rule. If it is in the premium it can be enforced by the stewart.

    They are having a visitation today, I am going to try to make it. If I can keep my eye dry. This one is getting to me. First time in 15 years of working horse show I have lost one at a show.



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