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    Default Rapid Rain or Micro Rain sprinklers

    Has anybody had experience using the Rapid Rain Sprinkler system for their arena? I realize it's not anything more than a sprinkler on wheels that automatically moves and then shuts itself off, but I am interested in how durable and reliable and anything else your experience may be with such things. I have an outdoor arena, and thought I could set this thing in the morning to water at a certain rate and come back later (without babysitting it) to a watered arena?



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    Oh boy. Where to start.

    One does have to be very careful and follow the instructions rather well. Or one will flood one's arena. Some will flood one's arena multiple times, and gradually discover additional instructions and guidelines that need to be followed.

    If one gets any sand, say, or grit or anything like that in one's hose, or say, in the threads that connect the hose to the sprinkler, one can count on it clogging the sprayer and having an alarming effect on where the water goes, or if it goes out of the sprinkler at all. And if it doesn't go out of the sprinkler, it will burst some connection somewhere else.

    If one were to forget, say, to re-engage the gear and tighten down the knurled knob after setting out the sprinkler, one would find, when one came back an hour later, that the sprinkler had stayed in the original position and completely flooded the arena.

    Or, one might not put the main unit on a stable surface (a plastic box lid under the main unit may prevent this), it may tip down the slightest bit and the lever will not turn off the sprinkler, and it will completely flood the area NEXT to the unit.

    Or say, one might for example not have enough water pressure at some point, or the turbine might at some point not be sufficiently lubricated, and the hose will stop at some point and flood THAT area of the arena.

    Then there is the possibility that you will forget to maintain it over the winter, and the water turbine will cease turning at all.

    Then there's the problem of disassembling the sprinkler if it gets clogged with above dirt. That can take some time, and there's a certain inscrutable nothingness that makes the sprinkler work, that takes a long time to discover, especially if you reassemble it incorrectly. Oh and keep plenty of spare parts and teflon tape around if you take the sprinkler off the delivery pipe to maintain it.

    Oh. Don't overtighten any of the parts. Lots of the parts are plastic. And some are plastic parts that screw on to the metal delivery tube, and it's VERY easy to overtighten them and have them crack, and then you have to try to figure out where to get spare parts.

    All in all, it will help you discover how many different ways you can flood your arena.

    Then there is the issue of how the width it sprays changes mysteriously. Grit in the sprayer? Change in water pressure? You may wind up going down the track on both sides of the ring, and spraying them with a hose after the waterer has done, and you may also need to spray your corners, because the sprayer makes a circular pattern, and misses them.

    Oh. Don't leave it out in an unheated area if it gets cold. Don't store it in an unheated area. And it won't work if it's very cold, but water probably won't help you much then anyway, unless you add something to keep it from freezing.

    I'm really kidding. It is a very nice piece of equipment overall, well made and decently sturdy.

    But unless you really are into following directions - unless you really LOVE the concept of following directions, and set it up exactly the same every time, and plan to maintain it a few times a year and especially before storing it, you are going to get frustrated.


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    Hmmm...a cautionary tale, to be sure. Do you have the smaller one or the larger one? How old is yours? We have very hard water here. Hard doesn't even really begin to describe it. Will this thing gum up?


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    Don't forget the other problem - you'll have a very wet soggy line down the middle of your arena, and very light water on the edges where you ride. After a while, this will affect your base and footing. For the price, pay to have someone drop a few sprinklers around your ring!!!


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    Ours is very new, a year old. We have the smaller version.

    We are looking into having sprinklers mounted on the kickboards that spray out horizontally. I don't like the idea of ceiling nozzles. Every system we've seen drips and makes slipperly puddles, or misses areas, or douses the kick boards.

    I saw a system in Europe that is mounted behind a kick board, and pops out when it's time to spray. They don't have as much trouble draining and dripping, and they don't miss as large an area of corners.

    As for dripping down the center line - we changed to the 'fast' gear on our Rainmaker and it sprays much less water, and it didn't drip much til I had to dismantled it over and over to get grit out. After breaking the piece that goes on the steel tube several times while trying to eliminate the 'center line drip phenomenon, I found replacement parts at the discount stores and keep a bunch on hand, but I am still afraid to tighten the piece down too much and break it again.


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    Where did all the grit come from or how did it enter into the contraption? I think if I try this thing, I'll get the lesser priced model. Thanks for all your posts, really informative.


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    Grit is any dust, sand, dirt or the like, that is on or in the hose you hook to the rapid rain.


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    I have an outdoor arena (in Florida) and we own an irrigation company. I very much like what I have in my arena and that is: I have a sprinkler head every 30 ft. They are on risers (4' 6" tall PVC pipe) and attached to the fence posts on three sides. They are rotary sprayers, you can set for whatever part of a full rotation you want and they throw water about 40 ft. I don't have any in the middle, but I do have a privacy fence on the fourth side and they are in the ground there and popup. I don't have any problems riding that side at all, or dragging. The heads are not visible at all when they are not popped up. They are tucked right next to the fence. Our entire arena gets watered and we set the schedule on a controller. We water it mostly at night. That's convenient and the water gets a chance to soak in and not evaporate before it does what we want. You will not get puddles, or dripping, or uneven watering.

    I think most of the labor could be done by a handy person. It's not that hard. Most of the parts could be bought at Home Depot. We use commercial grade heads, but those are also available to individuals by contacting an irrigation supplier.

    I love it. No dust at all and keeps my footing base perfect.

    If it gets to freezing where you are in the winter, then you would just drain the system before that weather season comes. Of course, in Florida, we do not have to bury pipe very deep because we don't freeze very often. If we do, then it's not for very long.


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    Small world--I just ordered the larger Rapid Rain. I wanted one to irrigate my pasture, which is Bermuda on heavy clay soil. I'd tried flood irrigation, but, ugh, what a mess. The run-out-and-move-the-sprinkler business got very old very soon, but still better and less hard work than flood irrigation.

    I asked a bunch of questions before I decided to order the larger model, but if I wanted to water an arena, I'd definitely get the smaller unit. The reason behind my choice is that I'm moving water to the pasture with a gasoline-powered pump--it runs about 1.5--2 hrs on 1/2 gallon of gasoline, so I want to put as much water out there on the grass as I possibly can per tank of gasoline.

    If you order the RapidRain, you have your choice between a pasture gearbox (slow) or an arena gearbox (faster).

    I thought about putting in a system such as movo has, but I've got 7 acres in the pasture that will get sprinkled, so any system I use almost has to be portable. And, I was afraid that the horses would destroy the sprinklers, and probably the pipe, as well.

    I also looked at the Nelsons and the Smith Waterreels. They were nicer and more complex than the RR, but cost twice as much--always a factor.

    Indy-lou, I'm also in California. I'm using canal water now, but may go to our well water after our irrigation season ends. Our water is so hard that I'm surprised it's even liquid. If I use the RR with it, the RR will get a vinegar bath after every use. (I have to soak our shower heads in vinegar periodically or we have about two working spray holes after a little while.)
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    I have sprinklers all over my pastures. They are on swing-joints. That means that when the horses/tractor step on them, they sink into the ground and come back up when the pressure is gone. I have absolutely no problem with riding, driving my carts, dragging, or anything else. In fact, I have to turn them on in order to tell where they are.

    We use water from our pond to irrigate and if the pond gets low, we fill up the pond from the well. It keeps the pond water from getting stale and prevents any nasties like algae from forming, also prevents mosquitoes. We are in Florida and have no mosquitoes on our property. (we also have two sprinkler heads spraying the pond to keep the water moving).

    We can also inject different things into the sprinkler system to fertilize through the sprinkler system, or put out fly and mosquito killer. (We use stuff that does not harm the horses, dogs, etc.)

    Here's what water can do for you. ------ Here's a corner of my pasture. Neighbors pasture behind. This is a small pasture about 1-1/2 acres with three horses on it.

    http://www.dropshots.com/movo#date/2008-06-14/12:06:30

    Here's another pasture. This one has about one acre with four ponies. You can see the sprinklers on the arena fence line in this pic.

    http://www.dropshots.com/movo#date/2008-06-14/12:05:11

    We have done the same type of systems for different customers with boarding barns, etc. and they haven't had any problems. You have to bury the pipe a little deeper in very high traffic areas (like lanes) or avoid the high traffic areas with the pipes. Having the system also enables you to put hose bibs (water faucets) just about anywhere.

    My pastures look like lawns. The down side is mowing.


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    yours sounds similar to a system i saw - a lady had a system in her indoor arena that popped up and forward, and sprayed horizontally. each sprinkler sprayed about 35 feet and the spray patterns met in the middle of the arena; there were sprinkler heads all down the long side of the indoor arena, i'd guess, about 1 every 30 feet, about a half dozen of them on one long side of the indoora rena. that's what i'd like, not an overhead system.



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    slc2, do you use your unit strictly for arena wetting, or do you squirt your lawn and pasture as well? If so, how does it work?
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    SURE we used it on our pasture! That's how we came to need a new well pump!!!! Cha ching!



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    A new pump????

    How did that come to pass?
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    This is a great topic and I am glad to see everyone is happy with our product here at Rapid Rain. It is very interesting to read all of your replies.

    We take pride in our customer service so if you have any issues with your product please do not hesitate to call our corporate office. We would be glad to assist you. If you are also needing any parts or accessories we can help you there as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by movo View Post
    I have an outdoor arena (in Florida) and we own an irrigation company. I very much like what I have in my arena and that is: I have a sprinkler head every 30 ft. They are on risers (4' 6" tall PVC pipe) and attached to the fence posts on three sides. They are rotary sprayers, you can set for whatever part of a full rotation you want and they throw water about 40 ft. I don't have any in the middle, but I do have a privacy fence on the fourth side and they are in the ground there and popup. I don't have any problems riding that side at all, or dragging. The heads are not visible at all when they are not popped up. They are tucked right next to the fence. Our entire arena gets watered and we set the schedule on a controller. We water it mostly at night. That's convenient and the water gets a chance to soak in and not evaporate before it does what we want. You will not get puddles, or dripping, or uneven watering.

    I think most of the labor could be done by a handy person. It's not that hard. Most of the parts could be bought at Home Depot. We use commercial grade heads, but those are also available to individuals by contacting an irrigation supplier.

    I love it. No dust at all and keeps my footing base perfect.

    If it gets to freezing where you are in the winter, then you would just drain the system before that weather season comes. Of course, in Florida, we do not have to bury pipe very deep because we don't freeze very often. If we do, then it's not for very long.
    This is what we have as well - plain old sprinkler heads mounted on the posts on the fence around the arena. It really freaks the stallion out when I turn him out there and turn the sprinklers on .



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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm EBO View Post
    Small world--I just ordered the larger Rapid Rain. I wanted one to irrigate my pasture, which is Bermuda on heavy clay soil. I'd tried flood irrigation, but, ugh, what a mess. The run-out-and-move-the-sprinkler business got very old very soon, but still better and less hard work than flood irrigation.

    I asked a bunch of questions before I decided to order the larger model, but if I wanted to water an arena, I'd definitely get the smaller unit. The reason behind my choice is that I'm moving water to the pasture with a gasoline-powered pump--it runs about 1.5--2 hrs on 1/2 gallon of gasoline, so I want to put as much water out there on the grass as I possibly can per tank of gasoline.

    If you order the RapidRain, you have your choice between a pasture gearbox (slow) or an arena gearbox (faster).

    I thought about putting in a system such as movo has, but I've got 7 acres in the pasture that will get sprinkled, so any system I use almost has to be portable. And, I was afraid that the horses would destroy the sprinklers, and probably the pipe, as well.

    I also looked at the Nelsons and the Smith Waterreels. They were nicer and more complex than the RR, but cost twice as much--always a factor.

    Indy-lou, I'm also in California. I'm using canal water now, but may go to our well water after our irrigation season ends. Our water is so hard that I'm surprised it's even liquid. If I use the RR with it, the RR will get a vinegar bath after every use. (I have to soak our shower heads in vinegar periodically or we have about two working spray holes after a little while.)
    This is great input. I'm glad you are enjoying our product

    If anyone has ordered a Rapid Rain with the pasture gearbox and you feel you may be mechanically inclined enough where you would like to change the gear to an arena model gearbox for personal preference please send me an e-mail with your contact information and I would be happy to have our logistics team mail you the part for free.

    Thanks,
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    why did I mis-read it as Mr. Tommy Field is throwing a wet t-shirt contest, with a $300 first prize?


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    I have an arena Rapid Rain Sprinkler. The company is very nice to deal with.
    However, here are my misgivings:

    First I had it hooked up to a hose, and had pressure problems. The supposed coverage of the head did not live up to what it was supposed to be. The sprinkler head was rather cheap (plastic parts). I went to a landscape supplier and got a really GOOD quality head, made of solid brass (no plastic) and that improved it, a little. I also hooked it up to a hydrant, for more pressure. It didn't help, and here's why: the diameter of the valve you connect your hose to is too small (standard hose size), therefore, even if you use a hydrant with tons of water pressure and a larger hose, you will never get any more water into the machine than it's valve diameter is capable of. Consequently, it still doesn't get the edges of the arena wetted properly.
    It would be nice if they would redesign the water valve size.
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    myhorsefly - which model do you have - the smaller one or the larger one? I am seriously considering buying one and my hubby thinks I need the larger one. $1,595 is a LOT of money so I want to be sure it will actually work! I would feel better experimenting with $695 for the smaller one but I think it would not get the edges of my arena at all since my arena is about 75' wide, if not a little more.
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