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June 4, 2012

A Better Breakdown?

Let's find a way to get ribbons to the people who value them most.

I've just returned from another AWESOME monthly-or-so clinic at the stunning Sally Run in Wytheville, Va. We were sitting around the dinner table chatting, and a few of the riders expressed their frustration at the world of showing. There are lots of things that aren't ideal about horse shows, but the one that frustrated these riders the most was that so often they came home from the shows empty-handed.

When you listen to the chatter at the tack shops or in the barn aisles of the American dressage world, you're bound to hear the same story. Showing is expensive. It's time consuming. Amateur riders work preposterously hard to fit in their rides around their families and their jobs and their lives, all to get ready for the show, only to place out of the ribbons in a blended division of a bajillion people, half of them professionals.

I grew up in the Chicagoland area, and Jr/YRs, amateurs and open riders almost always competed in their own divisions of each class, at even the most local of shows, but this is not true of the entire country. I've never understood this. How hard would it be to divvy up each class by the riders' statuses? They could even all ride in the same class, in the same window of time, but simply give out ribbons for each division at the end.

But even that doesn't tell the whole story. Within the amateur division are both beginner riders on beginner horses and lifelong riders, experienced at FEI, on their young up-and-coming fancypants partner. Within the Jr/YR divisions are 9-year-olds on aging ponies and 20-year-old NAJYRC phenoms or professional working students. And within the professional divisions are USET members and riders who make their living starting 3-year-olds and selling them and have managed to hang onto just one to try and move up the levels for the first time. Even these three categories do not fit all.

So I have another suggestion.

Let's divide the riders into four categories: Gold, Silver, Bronze and Unrated. Your category is determined by what U.S. Dressage Federation Medal you hold. (Now, even that's not perfect, you say: Should Steffen Peters compete in the same division as someone with only 2 60 percents at Grand Prix to their name? Yes, I say. We have to draw a line somewhere, and it has to be practical.) These divisions have nothing to do with age or profession - young and old, pro and amateur; your division corresponds to the highest level at which you've demonstrated proficiency.

At every show in the country, Level 2 to Level 5, each class has two divisions. Training level, test 1, through third level, test 3, have Unrated and Bronze/Silver/Gold; if you have your bronze medal or above, you compete with the big kids, and if you don't, you compete in the Unrated division.

Fourth Level, test 1, through PSG has Unrated/Bronze and Silver/Gold. Bronze medalists and below compete together, as do Silver and Gold medalists.

Lastly, the I1 through Grand Prix have two divisions: Unrated/Bronze/Silver and Gold.

There need to be ribbons for each division of each test. And if that means that there's only one person in the lower division of the I1, and that person gets their own blue ribbon when, in the upper division, they would have placed 20th, then buy them a blue ribbon. If that means that GMOs and show management spend half as much again on ribbons at their horse shows, then so be it. I'll guarantee you'll have more people who want to play.

LaurenSprieser.com
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Ribbons
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Comments

SBrentnall
1 year 2 weeks ago

Amateurs shouldn't compete against pros

I'm afraid your system wouldn't work in some areas of the country. I'm an amateur with one horse and I fight to ride 3 times per week. However, I do have my bronze and almost my silver (it's taken 20 years to get them). Even with my silver, there's no way I'm interested in competing against the pros here in S. Cal. I'm happy with the current system of separating amateurs and pros, and don't see why it can't be instituted across the country.
caddym
1 year 2 weeks ago

I for one, do not want to be

I for one, do not want to be limited to who I compete with. It is never going to be a level playing field - there will always be some excuse why you got beat - someone with a better horse, more time to ride, supportive family, more moeny etc...There are times I came home from a show out of the ribbons, with disappointing scores and it doesn't make me want to play in a smaller pond but rather motivates me to improve. I think showing is about showing the judges how I am doing with my horse, not about getting a little ribbon. Is it necessary to make smaller and smaller classes with limited criteria so that everyone goes home with a ribbon?
SBrentnall
1 year 1 week ago

You don't HAVE to compete in the Amateur division

I know several amateurs who choose to compete in the Open division, and that's totally up to them. I guess it also depends on how many people you have at show. In S. Cal, both our Amateur and Open division typically have anywhere from 5 to 15 riders per class, so there's no reason not to separate them.
meupatdoes
1 year 2 weeks ago

With the scoring system in

With the scoring system in dressage based on what is supposed to be a universal percentage system, the ribbon (or lack thereof) loses the point for me. Whether I get a ribbon in a restricted division or don't get a ribbon in an open division, the score is the score. I would much rather get no ribbon for a 75% than get first place with a 55%. That said I wouldn't oppose redoing the systems so that more riders can get more ribbons, because fundamentally it doesn't matter to me. Whether I get a ribbon or not, my score was still the same. It doesn't change how well I actually rode.
SBrentnall
1 year 1 week ago

Judges here are a little tougher on pros

I'm in S. Cal, which means the pros I see at shows are people like Steffen & Shannon Peters, Jan Ebeling, Kathleen Raine, etc. I enjoy watching these folks for inspiration, but I don't think it's fair that I be expected to compete with them. Yes, it's about the score, not the ribbon. But it would get disheartening after years of scrimping and working to be able to show, knowing that I'll never get a placing or a ribbon. In effect, you're making prizes available only to pros. In areas of the country where the pros aren't members of the US Olympic team, I might not mind the competition. But in CA and FL, it just seems unfair.
aella
1 year 1 week ago

Ribbons

I've shown in Northern California for years. I have ridden cheap alternative horses receiving poor scores and expensive, well-moving horses that got great scores and won classes....judges don't like and won't score alternative horses...nonwarmbloods....no matter how well you ride. They respond to cute, warmbloods with heads smaller than their butts....sure they need to be trained, but the rider doesn't need to know how to ride. How many times have you thought to yourself: "someone with too much money and time on their hands," at a show? Classify according to cost of horse, level of training the horse has opposed to what level the rider is riding AND if someone has to work or not. Also, ribbons are not enough, a six-pack of beer should suffice!
pennydonovan
1 year 3 days ago

Enhancing the Divisions Offered

I think this is where dressage can take from the experience of other disciplines. Shows offered by organizations such as AQHA and APHA have Novice Amateur and Novice Youth classes (some even split further) that are based on experience. For example, since these shows offer points depending on your placings, once you reach a certain amount of points you're no longer eligible and must move up to the regular Amateur or Youth divisions. In the hunter world, you have Adult Amateur (amateur rider on horse owned by any person) and Amateur Owner (only allowed to ride horses owned by you and your family) classes. For professionals that are less experienced and may not have the quality of horses, the reining and cutting shows offer Limited Open classes.
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